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The Feeling is Musical explores a wide variety of topics in the evidence-based practice of music therapy. Available on all podcast platforms including Anchor. Let’s hang out!

Episode 040 | Veteran Mental Health Care

Today, we chat with guest, Cody Mills, a US Army Veteran and music therapy intern, about the intersection of mental health and military culture.

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 039 | Behind the Mic: Hosting the Host

Today, we’re switching it up! Yana gets behind the mic to talk with host, Erica Lee, about all the behind the scenes details you never knew you wanted to know.

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 038 | Multidisciplinary: Music Therapy & Occupational Therapy

Today, we chat with guest, Katie Schripsema, a board-certified music therapist and occupational therapist, about how her multidisciplinary training informs her practice.

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Duke City Music Therapy | Website

Life on Music YouTube Channel | Website

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 037 | Being a Music Therapy Intern

Today, we chat with guest, Ally Perko, as she reflects on her internship experiences and breaks down some of the misconceptions about being a music therapy intern.

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Facebook Groups recommended – Music Therapists Unite; Music Therapy Internships; and Music Therapy Students/Interns.

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 036 | Being an Indigenous Music Therapist

Today, we chat with guest, Sarah Bell, a certified music therapist from the Métis people of Canada. Sarah shares about how she brings Indigenous ways of knowing into her therapeutic practice.

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Bell, S. (2018). A Music Therapist’s Self-Reflection on Her Indigenous Heritage: A Heuristic Self Inquiry. Canadian Journal of Music Therapy, 24, 58-75.

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 035 | An Education in Unlearning

Today, we chat with guest, Dr. Sue Hadley, a professor and board-certified music therapist, about why she designed a music therapy graduate program.

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 034 | Teaching Future Music Therapists

Today, we chat with guest, Dr. Carlene Brown, a professor and board-certified music therapist, about the importance of teaching the whole person.

LEARN MORE

Find out more about the Seattle Pacific University Music Therapy Program at spu.edu/musictherapy.

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 033 | Music Therapy & Spiritual Care

Today, we chat with guest, Meg Harmon, a board-certified music therapist, about the importance of tending to the human spirit.

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Being Mortal: Medicine and What Matters in the End by A. Gawande | Book

Awakening the Creative Spirit: Bringing the Arts to Spiritual Direction by Paintner & Beckman | Book

Man’s Search for Meaning by V. Frankl | Book

On Being Podcast by Krista Tippets | Podcast

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 032 | Music Therapy & Hospice Care

Today, we chat with guest, Matt Valois, a board-certified music therapist, as he shares stories from his experiences working in hospice.

LEARN MORE

A Life of Music Therapy by M. Valois | YouTube

The Center for Music Therapy in End of Life Care | Website

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 031 | Mental Health in Dementia Care

Today, we chat with guest, Dianna Rose, a board-certified music therapist, about mindfulness as a critical aspect of mental health care in dementia settings.

LEARN MORE

The effectives of the music-with-movement intervention on the cognitive functions of people with moderate dementia: a randomized controlled trial. by Cheung DSK, et al. | Journal Article

Chapter 31 of Developments in Music Therapy Practice: Case Study Perspectives by A. Meadows | Book

The development of Music in Dementia Assessment Scales (MiDAS) by McDermott, et al. | Journal Article

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 030 | Music Engagement in Memory Care

Today, we chat with guest, Marta Street, a Sales Manager for Brookdale Senior Living and a Certified Senior Advisor, about why she advocates for music therapy in memory care settings.

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Teepa’s Gems by Teepa Snow | YouTube

The 36-Hour Day: A family guide by Nancy Mace | Book

Creating Moments of Joy by Jolene Brackey | Book

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 029 | Music Therapy & Dementia | Part Two

Today, we chat with guest, Kaylee Tilton, a board-certified music therapist, about the popular misconceptions of music therapy in dementia care.

LEARN MORE

Creative Aging Northwest | Website

Alzheimer’s Association | Website

Positive Approach to Care by Teepa Snow | Website

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 028 | Music Therapy & Dementia | Part One

Today, we chat with guest, Kaylee Tilton, a board-certified music therapist, about the benefits of music therapy for people with dementia.

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Creative Aging Northwest | Website

Alzheimer’s Association | Website

Positive Approach to Care by Teepa Snow | Website

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 027 | Music Therapy in the NICU

Today, we chat with guest, Evelyn Stagnaro, a board-certified music therapist, as she shares about what music therapy looks like with infants in the NICU.

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Music Therapy for Premature Infants: Research and Developmental Interventions by Dr. Jayne Standley | Book

Using Your Voice with Newborns in the Hospital by Dr. Helen Shoemark | YouTube

Advanced Training in NICU-MT Dr. Jayne Standley | Website

Time Together Program by Dr. Helen Shoemark | Website

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 026 | Music Therapy & Parkinson’s Disease

Today, we chat with guest, Megumi Azekawa, a board-certified music therapist, about her work and how singing can benefit individuals with Parkinson’s Disease.

LEARN MORE

Sound Health: Singing for Parkinson’s Disease by Jessica Frost | Online Article

Music Therapy and its Impact on the Brain by Dr. Elizabeth Stegemoller | TedTalk

Azekawa, M. & LaGrasse, A.B. (2017). Singing Exercises for Speech and Vocal Abilities in Individuals with Hypokinetic Dysarthria: A Feasability Study. Music Therapy Perspectives, 36(1), 40-49.

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 025 | Collective Care: A Disability Justice Paradigm

Today, we chat with guest, Yana Ramos, a music therapist, about how the disability justice paradigm impacts their practice of music therapy.

LEARN MORE

10 Principles of Disability Justice by Sins Invalid | Online Article

Disability Justice Informing Communities of Practice by Lydia XZ Brown | YouTube

The Overlooked Reality of Police Violence Against Disabled Black Americans from The Takeaway | Audio

Database of Webinars About Disability Justice Complied by HERD | Other

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 024 | Music Therapy & Adolescent Mental Health

Today, we chat with guest, Addison Breier, a board-certified music therapist, about music therapy as a support for adolescent trauma healing.

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Guidelines for Music Therapy Practice in Mental Health by Lillian Eyre | Book

Beautiful Boy Trailer Directed by Felix van Groeningen | YouTube

American Music Therapy Association | Website

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 023 | Censorship in Music Therapy

Today, we chat again with guest, Cassie Fox, a board-certified music therapist, who answers the question, “What is the best music to listen to?”

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The Gospel of Hip Hop by KRS-One | Book

First Overstanding from The Gospel of Hip Hop by KRS-One | YouTube

The Hip Hop Wars by Tricia Rose | Book

Black Noise by Tricia Rose | Book

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 022 | Music Therapy in the Justice System

Today, we chat with guest, Cassie Fox, a board-certified music therapist, about how they practice anti-oppressive therapy in a juvenile detention center.

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13th directed by Ava DuVernay | Documentary

Ava DuVernay’s 13th Reframes American History by J. Lantigua-Williiams | Article

Youth Incarceration by ACLU | Webpage

Implicit Bias: More Than Just a Few Bad Apples by Dr. Cameron Wedding | Articles

Community Based Alternatives by Juvenile Justice Information Exchange | Webpage

Unlocking the Future: Detention Reform in the Juvenile Justice System by Coalition for Juvenile Justice | Report

The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Blindness by Michelle Alexander | Book

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 021 | Being a Black Music Therapist | Part Two

Today, we chat with guest, Katy Webber, a music therapist, as she shares about the necessity of creating safe spaces.

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The Daily Show with Trevor Noah | YouTube Channel

Northwest African American Museum | Website

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 020 | Being a Black Music Therapist | Part One

Today, we chat with guest, Tanesha Ross, a board-certified music therapist, as she shares about how her personal experience as a black music therapist.

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Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome by Dr. Joy DeGruy | Book, Website

Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass: An American Slave by F. Douglass and D. Blight | Book

My Bondage and My Freedom by F. Douglass | Book

Artists Striving to End Poverty | Website

Giants: The Parallel Lives of Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln by J. Stauffer | Book

Most people think ‘whiteness’ is innate. They’re wrong: it was created to keep black people from voting by K. Gerbner | Online Article

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 019 | Queering

Today, we chat with guest, Vee Fansler, a board-certified music therapist, as they share about the transformative nature of applying queer theory in creative arts therapies.

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Voices: A Special Issue on Queering Music Therapy Edited by Candice Bain and Maevon Gumble | Journal Articles

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 018 | Music Therapy & Queer Folx

Today, we chat with guest, Vee Fansler, a board-certified music therapist, as they share about their clinical work with queer folx and the importance of queer recognition across the entire lifespan.

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Best Practices for Therapists Working with the LGBTQ Community with Team Rainbow by Music Therapy Ed | Video

Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Questioning Best Practices in Music Therapy by Whitehead-Pleaux, et al. | Journal Article

Perspectives on Queer Music Therapy: A Qualitative Analysis of Music Therapists’ Reactions to Radically Inclusive Practice by Boggan, et al. | Journal Article

Songwriting Alternative Gender Cultures with Young People as an ‘After-Queer’ Methodology by E. Scrine | Journal Article

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 017 | Being a Queer Music Therapist

Today, we chat with guest, Vee Fansler, a board-certified music therapist, as they share about their personal experience of being a queer music therapist.

LEARN MORE

Queer: A Graphic History by Meg John Barker and Illustrated by Julia Scheele | Book

Gender Affirming Voicework: An Introduction to Music Therapy by Maevon Gumble | Journal Article

White Oleander by Jane Fitch | Book

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 016 | Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) in Music Therapy

Today, we chat with guest, Marissa Renalla, a board-certified music therapist with Seattle Children’s Hospital, as she shares about how she uses in DBT principles in her practice.

LEARN MORE

What is DBT? by G. Gleissner | Online Article

DBT Continuing Education for Music Therapists by Spiegel Academy | Website

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 015 | Music Therapy in Acute Psychiatric Care

Today, we chat with guest, Britta Erikson, a board-certified music therapist, about the necessity of trauma-informed care during involuntary hospitalization.

LEARN MORE

DBT Skills Training Manual by M. Linehan | Book

Building A Life Worth Living: A Memoir by M. Linehan | Book

Creative DBT Activities Using Music: Interventions for Enhancing Engagement and Effectiveness in Therapy by D. Spiegel, S. Makary, & L. Bonavitacola | Book

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 014 | Trauma-Informed Care for the Homeless

Today, we chat with guest, Alex Robinson, a board-certified music therapist, about the impacts of compounded trauma for the under/unhoused.

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The Body Keeps the Score by B. van der Kolk | Book

Harm Reduction Coalition | Website

Ehmling, Amelia E., “PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WITHIN MUSIC THERAPY SETTINGS: A DESCRIPTIVE STUDY” (2018). Theses and Dissertations–Music. 106. | Thesis

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 013 | Music Therapy & Mental Health

Today, we chat with guest, Amy Hines, a board-certified music therapist, about the intersections of music therapy and mental health.

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Music Therapy & Mental Health by the American Music Therapy Association | Online Article

Edwards, J. (2006). Music Therapy in the Treatment and Management of Mental Disorders. Irish Journal of Psychological Medicine, 23(1). | Journal Article

McIntyre, J. (2007). Creating Order out of Chaos: Music Therapy with Adolescent Boys Diagnosed with a Behaviour Disorder and/or Emotional Disorder. Music Therapy Today, 8(1). | Journal Article

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 012 | When Helping Hurts

Today, we chat with returning guest, Yana Ramos, a music therapist, as they share about how actions meant to help autistic people actually exposes them to significant risk of harm and trauma.

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Inspiration Porn and the Objectification of Disability by Stella Young | TedTalk

Disability Justice at the Intersections by Ned Calonge | Online Article

Thinking Person’s Guide to Autism by Maxfield Sparrow | Online Article

The Autistic OT – @TheAutisiticOT on Facebook & Instagram

Ask Me, I’m Autisitic Facebook Group

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 011 | The Double Empathy Problem

Today, we chat with returning guest, Yana Ramos, a music therapist, as they share about how the popular perception of autism creates the double empathy problem.

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The Double Empathy Problem by Dr. Damian Milton | Online Article

Empathy is Overrated by Devon Price | Online Article

In My Language by Mel Baggs | YouTube Video

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 010 | Introduction to the Neurodiversity Paradigm

Today, we chat with returning guest, Yana Ramos, a music therapist, as they give an introduction to the neurodiversity paradigm.

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Bakan, M. (2014). Ethnomusicological Perspectives on Autism, Neurodiversity, and Music Therapy. Voices: A World Forum for Music Therapy, 14(3). | Journal Article

Neurotribes: The Legacy of Autism and the Future of Neurodiversity by S. Silberman | Book

Throw Away the Master’s Tools: Liberating Ourselves from the Pathology Paradigm by Nick Walker | Online Article

Typed Words, Loud Voices by Amy Sequenzia (Editor) and Elizabeth Grace (Editor) | Book

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 009 | Being an Autistic Music Therapist

Today, we chat with guest, Yana Ramos, a music therapist, about their personal experience being an autistic music therapist.

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All the Weight of Our Dream: On Living Racialized Autism by the Autism Women’s Network | Book

Typed Words, Loud Voices by Amy Sequenzia (Editor) and Elizabeth Grace (Editor) | Book

Noncompliant – the podcast by Anne | Podcast

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 008 | Storytelling in Music Therapy

Today, we chat with returning guest, Colby Cumine, a board-certified music therapist, about the importance of storytelling in music therapy.

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Play Therapy by V. Axline | Book

Chapters 11 & 12 of The Body Keeps the Score by B. van der Kolk | Book

The Trauma Therapist: Contemplative Psychotherapy Episode #424 by Guy McPherson | Podcast

The Trauma Therapist: The Power & Passion of a Survivor Episode #425 by Guy McPherson | Podcast

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 007 | Music Therapy & the Relationships that Matter

Today, we chat with guest, Sam Burns, a board-certified music therapist, about how music therapy can support healthy early childhood development.

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Music Therapy with Families by S. Lindahl and G. Thompson | Book

An Overview of Attachment Theory from Community Pediatric Review | Online Article

Serve & Return: Positive child-caregiver interactions build strong brains from Alberta Family Wellness Initiative | Online Article

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 006 | Music & the Brain Part Two

Today, we chat with returning guest, Colby Cumine, a board-certified music therapist, about the applications of neuroscience in music therapy.

LEARN MORE

Your Brain on Music by Alan Harvey | TedTalk

Musicophilia: Tales of Music and the Brain by O. Sacks | Book

This is Your Brain on Music: The Science of Human Obsession by D. Levitin | Book

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 005 | Music & the Brain Part One

Today, we chat with returning guest, Colby Cumine, a board-certified music therapist, about the science behind why people like music.

LEARN MORE

Your Brain on Music by Alan Harvey | TedTalk

Musicophilia: Tales of Music and the Brain by O. Sacks

This is Your Brain on Music: The Science of Human Obsession by D. Levitin

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 004 | Trauma-Informed Music Therapy

Today, we chat with guest, Colby Cumine, a board-certified music therapist, about how he practices music therapy while taking into account the past trauma(s) of a client.

LEARN MORE

The Trauma Therapist by Guy McPherson | Podcast

The Body Keeps the Score by B. van der Kolk

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 003 | Community Music Therapy

Today, we chat with guest, Cassie Fox, a board-certified music therapist, about how they use a community-based approach to music therapy.

LEARN MORE

Community Music Therapy & the Winds of Change by G. Ansdell | Journal Article

Invitation to Community Music Therapy by B. Stige | Book

Community Music Therapy by E. Ruud | Online Article

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 002 | Social Justice in Music Therapy

Today, we chat with returning guest, Vee Fansler, a board-certified music therapist, about how they incorporate social justice into their therapeutic paradigm.

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Playing in the Borderlands: The transformative possibilities of queering music therapy pedagogy by Fansler et al. | Journal Article

Destabilizing Bodies, Destabilizing Disciplines: Practicing liminality in music therapy by LaCom & Reed | Journal Article

Episode transcript available here.

Episode 001 | What is Music Therapy

Today, we chat with Vee Fansler, a board-certified music therapist, about the definition of music therapy and how music is a part of daily life.

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Defining Music Therapy by K. Bruscia | Book

Chapter 7 of The Field of Play: A Guide for the Theory and Practice of Music Therapy by C. Kenny | Book

Episode transcript available here.